I fortunately have PR represented and worked with a bevy of musical artists but no one made me think and see things differently than John Prine. I was brought in to work John's Grammy-winning "Missing Years" album and at first, I thought it would be a good campaign but it turned out to be so much more.
John would come into New York - he might be playing The Beacon - and we would go to set interviews. I learned a lot from John. I learned life lessons. For example, we passed a down-and-out guy on the street asking for a dollar. Being streetwise New York area guy, I warned John, the guy is probably a hustler. John said, "George, what the F--- is a dollar nowadays? 50 cents?" I reached in my pocket and gave the guy a dollar. That lesson changed me for the better.
There are other things John would comment about like how he could not sign with another record company. He did not like being owned or how labels recouped everything. The artist was on the hook for everything.It was not for him and therefore, he started Oh Boy Records based in Nashville.
But here is a little known fact about John Prine. He was performing at The Beacon and I went to look for him backstage. He wasn't in his dressing room and I found him in the back hallways pacing and smoking a cigarette. I asked John if he was OK and he confided in me he gets stage fright every time he performs live. I was taken back. Here is a consummate performer - songwriter - a guy with worldly knowledge - great humor - poise and he has stage fright still. He told me he'd be OK but not until he stepped up to the mike on the Beacon stage. The kind of honesty John passed on (in song and in person) speaks of an artist I realize was a gift not only in my life, but all our lives.
George Dassinger
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Re: John Prine
Losing John has hit all of us so terribly hard.
We all loved the songs very much.
But if you had the luck to know John, you loved him even more.
John and Stevie taught me how much songs can mean.
Here's a link with lyrics to one of the most powerful songs John ever wrote.
And on this day, at this time, one of his saddest.
We recorded this at Chicago Recording in 1978.
John on Elec. Gtr, and Stevie Goodman, Producer and creator of this perfect arrangement.
"Bruised Orange (Chain of Sorrow)"
My heart's in the ice house…"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S3M2UsGjG8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0RxRIQ6YU0EMbIvxx5aBU8GOMGPXdESOR2gXlncPtRHoVMfXNCO_w8Mr0
Hank Neuberger
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Re: John Prine
Hey Bob,
I remember one time in the late nineties I was living in San Diego and John was on tour and was set to play in San Diego that night. The show was sold out and I didn't have tickets. As luck would have it I got a call from John's manager Al Bunetta. I'd gotten to know Al when I'd stop in Nashville to play a show or do a co-write with someone. Al was an old school manager who knew everyone. He'd always come to my shows and give me advice. He even had me over to his house for lunch. He knew I was a huge Prine fan (who wasn't?) and he always told me cool stories about John. So anyways, he called me up and asked me if I was in town. I said yes. Then he said "Listen, John's playing a show tonight and he needs to go to The Disney Store to get his kids some presents. Can you pick him up at his hotel and drive him to a place called Horton Plaza and take him to The Disney Store?"
"Can I? Yes! For sure. No problem." I was trying not to act too excited but I couldn't help myself. I was gobsmacked. All of a sudden I sounded like Rainman and I said "Of course I'm an excellent driver. "
Al laughed. He knew I loved John and he knew I'd be willing and able.
So I cleaned out my VW van and brought my waxy surfboards inside my Windansea apartment. There was sand and swim trunks and broken guitar strings and newspapers, CDs and books. I cleaned it as best as I could but I only had an hour to get it ready. I drove down to The US Grant Hotel and left my flashers on and ran inside and there he was in the lobby. John freaking Prine. We shook hands and chatted for a bit and then hopped on my van and we went to the mall. I tried not to gush too much and mostly remained silent and let him do the talking. I just listened. I didn't even tell him I was a singer songwriter. Never mentioned it! When we got to The Disney Store we looked at toys together. And clothes. And more toys. And the John said "I need to call my wife Fiona. I can't remember if I've already gotten em this toy. They always remember and I'll look like a fool if I repeat the same gift." He gave me that goofy sideways smile.
He eventually settled on the right gifts and we hopped back in my van and I dropped him off at his hotel. He asked me if was going to the show and I said I didn't have tickets. He wrote down my name and said "Now you do. They'll be two tickets for you at will call."
The seats were front row. I cried that night. I'm crying this morning. We're all crying.
Love ya,
Steve Poltz
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Re: John Prine
From: Andrew Loog Oldham
bob;
2000ish ...
I had seen my mother for what I knew would be the last time.
in a hospital in Oxford, dementia etc. the town that Inspector Morse used to drive around in that Jag.
I raced back to London, saw no speed limit signs , so I raced, got 9 speeding tickets 5 months later in Bogota.
walked down Park Lane coz I needed to feel good, and wanted to walk the hood that it had made no difference to my mother I had ended up in.
she always wanted to know when I would get a regular job...
walked into the Mini showroom, mulled around , looking for something for the Mini Cooper wife Esther had back in Bogota.
an American started chatting with me; I didn't mind.
I hadn't said a word since Oxford.
eventually when he knew from where I'd come he said,
" what you need is some music ; I have an act playing on a bill in Hammersmith tonight "
it went against all my DNA to do what I was told, but I did...
The American who chatted me up was Al Bunetta , and the act was John Prine ....
Al was right, and I'm still thanking him for that night...
best, o
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Re: John Prine
There is not a soul on this earth who knew John Prine who didn't pray/vibe/wish for his recovery, and that's why it is easy to understand why we can feel so powerless.
Robert Ellis Orrall
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Re: John Prine
John and I have been friends for over 40 years, when Al Bunetta brought both John and Steve Goodman to our town for a concert at Dooley's in Tempe. We all became best friends after that, and never left each other's minds.
To recount the shows, the nights, the drives, the dinners, the booze, etc., is something for another time. I do know I did more shows with John over the years than any one act, better than 200 at last count. Back in the day, many were with Bonnie, Arlo too. I will write longer about him later, when my eyes and head clear, which I just can't do right now out of pure grief that he deserves from me. He knows how sad we all are, he loved people and he loved that people loved him. He had a great life, he did good. Then this. FUCK.
The reason I did so many shows was the hang was the best with John. We worked and played together very well. Al was a super manager for the guys, and when he left us 5 years John and Fiona carried on with the great path they were on together, which made me so happy. He continued and thrived after the world's longest set up for a great career. People finally really came around and finally GOT John!
The funny stuff that would come out around the shows, as well as in the shows, was always magic. He and Fiona and his brother Billy are family, along with the traveling crew with him, especially Mitch and Chris Drosin,
They broke the mold, there will never be another Handsome Johnny. I will always love John Prine. After all he gave to the world, he deserved a better exit. He deserved to be with his wife. He didn't deserve to die alone. How did this happen? How do we live in a place where we were so unprepared for this, even when they knew it was coming? No one wants to see this happen, but we need strong, intelligent people looking after us. We just can't wish this thing away, as much as I have tried over the last few weeks, especially knowing John and Fiona got it. And now my friend is gone, and I feel helpless.
Danny Zelisko
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Re: John Prine
I did not know him well, not as well as I would wish. We worked together on a few occasions, ran into each other at a couple of gatherings. I knew him mainly, as did most of us, through his work, his songs.
He had me from "Angel From Montgomery." Damn! That song was so strong, so true it took your breath away. This in spite of the fact that there's a guy singing, "I am an old woman, named after my mother…." It took about a tenth of a second to get over the, "Wait! He's not an old woman …" bit and get swept away by the power of the story, get drawn into the picture he was painting. (Also, there was the part that it never seemed to even occur to him that he was not, in fact, an old woman, he understood and occupied that character so fully and empathetically.)
And then there were all the other shining gems that made us love him, the sideways, sometimes upside-down takes on life that had us smiling and singing along. Ways of looking at things that were new to the world but were expressed so forcefuly and engagingly that you could not turn away — there was no choice in the matter, you had to love him. No movie-star looks, no soaring tenor or dazzling guitar licks. He didn't need them. He saw truths that had never before occurred to us, and offered them up in a brand-new, loving way that could not be denied.
Goodbye, John Prine. I am sadder than I have been in a long, long time.
Tom Rush
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Re: John Prine
A sad day and I remember when I worked radio in the 80s at KUOR Radio in Redlands, California (now gone). I did a folk show and Jazz show during the day and then a metal show in the evening. John Prine's then manager use to listen to the folk music show which i did, among other shows. His manager would right me and tell me he appreciated my support of John's music. But one day, I had finished a show and I got a call and it was John Prine who was at that time touring in California and was resting in Redlands had heard me play two songs from Aimless Love album from 1984 on KUOR and he thank me and we chatted a bit and he was truly a sweet person. A fun memory, as that summer I landed in Sweden and my new life began. Thank you John Prine for the great music and those sweet and sometimes funny songs. So today I am genuinely sad and ask that all of you out there to be careful and be safe. I really don't want to lose more friends and family or more heroes to this horrible virus. RIP John and fly up and join that heavenly jam!
open.spotify.com/playlist/6piSAsarMMohlv2pwdXTcy?si=DTPfgkCGTRqUBxanLm_Kdg
And this duet song about writing a song with John Prine and Chip Taylor (who wrote Wild Thing and Angel In the Morning) is a great story song - two old friends trying to write a song. open.spotify.com/track/4AsaU0dSwo05WUXwUpqMxC?si=GnjrHdyNR1-n2DhueM7hUw
Just read Chris Stein's post to you and heard also that Hal Wilner has passed. He was a visionary. A sad day for sure
John Jackson Cloud
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Re: John Prine
I was a student at Miami University (Oxford, OH) when I bought John Prine's first album. I wasn't sure how Randy, my hard rocking roommate, would react to John's music. But "Illegal Smile" followed by "Spanish Pipedream" (She was a level headed dancer on the road to alcohol, and I was just a soldier, on my way to Montreal), and Sam Stone, showed that John was unique. A bluegrass protest singer/songwriter in the early 1970s.
John visited Wisconsin many times. He has a big following here, with a song line that always got the crowd roaring (Give my stomach to Milwaukee should they run out of beer). In 2006, while touring to promote the Fair and Square CD, we saw John and I was hoping to hear a couple of his "old" songs. He didn't disappoint. He told us he was going to play a song that he had quit singing, but he was singing again because of current events. "Your Flag Decal Won't Get you into Heaven anymore". Then for the encore John played the song I wanted to hear the most. "When I was a child my family would travel, down to Western Kentucky where my parents were born." My Dad was born in Western Kentucky, and since we'd lost him less than 2 years before, I will always remember this night.
Last summer we saw John play twice, once in Appleton and then in Madison. My old roommate Randy was 1 of 6 old fans in our group watching John play. He was touring for "Tree of Forgiveness" which ends with "When I get to heaven". "I'm gonna get a cocktail, vodka and ginger ale. Yeah, I'm gonna to smoke a cigarette that's 9 miles long."
But it's "Paradise" where he wrote his best farewell:
When I die let my ashes float down the Green River
Let my soul roll on up to the Rochester dam
I'll be halfway to Heaven with Paradise waitin'
Just five miles away from wherever I am.
Our condolences to the whole Prine family. Thank you John for all the years of great music you gave us.
" I wanna see all my mama's sisters, 'cause that's where all the love starts
I miss 'em all like crazy, bless their little hearts."
Ken Coffey
Waukesha, WI
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Re: John Prine
Damn now John Prine.
My dad passed yesterday at 90 from Coronavirus.
Kriss Wilson
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Re: John Prine & Hal Willner
"Halley's Waitress" was the first song I played when I got the news about Adam Schlesinger- in all the writing that I've seen about his legacy I'm amazed that nobody's mentioned it. I listen to it and think, "Not everybody can do something like this"... And the track, and Chris Collingwood's vocal- it's such a beauty..
Have you heard it?
youtu.be/9rKxLrHrS3A
And Hal Willner, he was a giant in his own way for sure. From behind the scenes, as a record producer, TV producer, tastemaker, and provocateur, he influenced the direction of music in a positive way. And he was a great guy.. I told him once that I used to look forward to his TV show, "Night Music", the way I looked forward to "Shindig" when I was 12 yrs. old.
Marshall Crenshaw
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Re: Hal Willner
Hal is the first fatality from the virus who I knew personally. A true renaissance man.
Ted Myers
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Re: Hal Willner
Hal and I met on Record Store Day awhile back. The catalyst of our friendship was Tiny Tim. I think this tickled him and we became friends. For a year or more we would get together about once a month to talk strategy: how could we bring magic to the music industry. For Hal, he was working on a new television series that would highlight fantastic artists, no criteria other than they were really good. He was going to intersperse the music segments with puppet shows, like they used to do in the fifties and sixties. He would show me these crazy short films he was making with puppets and music on his ipad. I would show him the puppet shows my five year old twins were doing. We were like two guys jamming in the garage. I wanted to do the album versions of his shows and Hal agreed to curate it. It's not going to happen now.
The last time we were in his studio, where the puppets and albums hang around and underneath his mixing board, I asked him about a photo of Lenny Bruce he had hanging above his Keith Richards puppet. He said, "That's Lenny and his daughter." In the photo they are embracing each other with happy smiles. Hal continued, "Richard Hell gave that to me because he owed me some money or something. I've always loved the photo." I said, "I love it too. They look so happy." He said, "Well, his daughter became an addict too so it didn't end well." We both sort of sat there and didn't say anything for awhile and I thought about how I hate losing people. Especially the really cool ones. The odd ones who see things differently.
The other thing that Hal did a lot over the past six months or so was play me tracks off the upcoming T Rex album he finished. It's pretty amazing. The Nick Cave track alone is stunning but it's much more than even that and of course Hal made sure that the album sequencing gave it a real flow. It does. We were working on a plan for Hal to fly to different record stores and play his T Rex album for people in the stores. Hal really believed in the magic of music bringing people together.
I really wish we didn't have to lose him. Godspeed Hal, you were one of the really cool ones.
Michael Kurtz
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Re: Hal Willner
I went to NYU with Hal Wilner in the wild and crazy Warhol 70's. Hal always seemed older, wiser and so much cooler than the rest of us even though he was two years younger. He was one of those special people who never had to change with the times because he was already so much further ahead... and we haven't even caught up with him yet. Whenever we ran into each other through life he would always make me feel like I was a member of his own very exclusive club of hip New York music cats. His warmth, astute intellect and consummate taste made him an irreplaceable treasure to whoever was lucky or worthy enough to be his friend and colleague. The world is now officially fucked and stranded without Hal Winer.
Desmond Child
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